Genealogical Findings of the Descendents of Ensign Mann, Sr. (1699–1762) and Tabitha Vinal
Showing posts with label genealogy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label genealogy. Show all posts
Saturday, January 25, 2014
Let the skeletons out of the closet
"The truth can hurt, but not knowing can hurt more." Alan Cumming upon discovering the mystery of his grandfather's death. Russian Roulette.
Friday, January 3, 2014
Bloodline to 6 Kings of England and King of Jerusalem
ADDENDUM--Jan 3, 2018
I'm sorry, but there appears to be an unverified weak link in this lineage. Thousands of others would love to have it verified as well, but it will most likely never happen, so this tree is null/void.
Happy New Year, everyone! As you may or may not know/recall, we descend from rebel Ensign Mann, II (1740–1829)* and Alice Whitney (1748–1806) of Petersham, MA. I've been slow about researching the Whitney line, and a cousin (Ruth) in Alaska finally got me started. (FYI: There are several Mann cousins in Alaska!) I took her research and went back even further--26 generations. We are related to six (6) Kings of England and even a King of Jerusalem! This research is solid and well documented as there are about a zillion other people who follow the lineage and have done extensive research. Contact me for complete charts on this line and the Athol/Petersham Mann family branches.
I'm sorry, but there appears to be an unverified weak link in this lineage. Thousands of others would love to have it verified as well, but it will most likely never happen, so this tree is null/void.
Happy New Year, everyone! As you may or may not know/recall, we descend from rebel Ensign Mann, II (1740–1829)* and Alice Whitney (1748–1806) of Petersham, MA. I've been slow about researching the Whitney line, and a cousin (Ruth) in Alaska finally got me started. (FYI: There are several Mann cousins in Alaska!) I took her research and went back even further--26 generations. We are related to six (6) Kings of England and even a King of Jerusalem! This research is solid and well documented as there are about a zillion other people who follow the lineage and have done extensive research. Contact me for complete charts on this line and the Athol/Petersham Mann family branches.
Here is the Whitney lineup in a nutshell:
Geoffrey, Count of Gâtinais
Geoffrey II, Count of Gâtinais AKA Geoffrey II, de Château-Landon
Fulk IV, Count of Anjou
Fulk, King of Jerusalem AKA Fulk the Younger
Geoffrey V –Geoffrey Plantagenet, Count of Anjou
Henry II of England
John, King of England
Henry III of England
Edward I of England
Edward II of England
Edward III of England
Prince Edmund of Langley, 1st Duke of York, 1st Earl of Cambridge
Constance of York, Countess of Gloucester
Eleanor (de) Holland Tuchet
Constance Touchet/Tuchet/Touchett
James Whitney
Robert Whitney
Sir Robert Whitney
Robert Whitney
Thomas Whitney
John Whitney
Richard Whitney
Moses Whitney
Lt. Moses Whitney
Rev. Aaron Whitney
Alice Whitney
*This blog references Ensign Mann Sr. and Tabitha Vinal because this Ensign had two sons that settled in Petersham, MA. Son Elijah has no known living descendants, thus leaving Ensign II and his wife Alice Whitney and their descendants as the focus.
*This blog references Ensign Mann Sr. and Tabitha Vinal because this Ensign had two sons that settled in Petersham, MA. Son Elijah has no known living descendants, thus leaving Ensign II and his wife Alice Whitney and their descendants as the focus.
Tuesday, October 8, 2013
Family Dysfunction
Today is my Dad's birthday and I sent him the funniest card...
OUTSIDE: You know how every family has that one person who seems normal?
INSIDE: We need to get us one of those!
HA! It is my belief that every family has dysfunction--some are just better at hiding it than others. ;-) The Mann family definitely has a history--I won't go into details. But one thing I have noticed that I find quite odd is the fact that MANY (Ensign) Mann descendants never married or had kids. I'm no historian, but think this is a little bizarre. I've contemplated dysfunction and I've contemplated the fact that maybe there weren't a lot of options in the area. Maybe they weren't really into marrying their cousins? (Although some did. HA)
Then there were those who only had 1 or 2 children when my ancestors in Newfoundland were spitting them out by the dozen! And believe me, all the Newfies married cousins! HA
Poor ol' wealthy Wilson Mann of Orange...He only had one daughter, and when she died unmarried at the age of 31, he died of a broken heart walking home from visiting her grave.
OUTSIDE: You know how every family has that one person who seems normal?
INSIDE: We need to get us one of those!
HA! It is my belief that every family has dysfunction--some are just better at hiding it than others. ;-) The Mann family definitely has a history--I won't go into details. But one thing I have noticed that I find quite odd is the fact that MANY (Ensign) Mann descendants never married or had kids. I'm no historian, but think this is a little bizarre. I've contemplated dysfunction and I've contemplated the fact that maybe there weren't a lot of options in the area. Maybe they weren't really into marrying their cousins? (Although some did. HA)
Then there were those who only had 1 or 2 children when my ancestors in Newfoundland were spitting them out by the dozen! And believe me, all the Newfies married cousins! HA
Poor ol' wealthy Wilson Mann of Orange...He only had one daughter, and when she died unmarried at the age of 31, he died of a broken heart walking home from visiting her grave.
Labels:
child-free descendants,
family dysfunction,
genealogy,
MA,
Orange,
spinsters,
Wilson Mann
Thursday, November 15, 2012
Genealogy Stories
Last month, for the first time, my husband learned something about his biological parents. His adoptive Dad let it slip that Nelson's father was a professional tennis player and was never told of his existence. Nelson is a great tennis player, and plays in local leagues. As a genealogy buff, I was about to crawl out of my skin!!! I want to know everything! Is it right that his biological father doesn't know about him?...if he's still alive. I'll give a shoutout to any professional tennis player who was possibly in Georgia in early 1962. You have a son that you don't know about, born in Savannah!
DOPPELGANGERS
Have you seen the story of Max Galuppo? www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/max-galuppo-temple-university-twin_n_2130291.html
DOPPELGANGERS
Have you seen the story of Max Galuppo? www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/14/max-galuppo-temple-university-twin_n_2130291.html
Basically, Max ran into a 16th century Italian painting in a Philadelphia art museum, and the subject appears to be his identical twin. The Nobleman in the portrait was from the same region that the Galuppo ancestors are from. They are looking deeply at the family tree now. I love this stuff!
Labels:
1962 tennis,
adoption,
genealogy,
georgia,
professional tennis,
savannah
Saturday, October 20, 2012
Mystery Photos
These two photos came from a Lamb/Mann relation. These ladies probably lived in Athol or Orange, MA. If anyone knows their identity, please contact me at newfiescott@gmail.com.
Lamb Family of Athol
ADDENDUM: Updated Info/findings
Lineage
A few months ago I got a "genealogist's high" when I made a profound discovery. It's a long story, but I found a Mann relative in Athol a couple of years ago who had a very strong resemblence (one photo in particular) to my grandmother. What baffled me is that they seemed too distantly related to share such similar features. This got me highly interested in DNA and solidified my passion for family research. Anyway, what I accidentally discovered was that although they shared the last name of Mann, they were more closely related by another family--the Lamb family of Athol! Ba-da-Bing! There you have it--2 bloodlines.*
Now I have a great interest in James & Elizabeth (Hubbard) Lamb and their descendents. James (1809-1871) and "Eliza" are buried in Highland Cemetery. I can find very little documentation on their son Charles S. Lamb who married Abbie Fay. He was born in 1834, but I have no death info. I would VERY much like to see photos of these people**, including their daughters Abby Maria Lamb who married John Howard Lee, and Martha Elvira Lamb who married Horace Mann. This is a photo of daughter Sarah Elizabeth Lamb and her husband Joseph B. Cardany. They lived in Athol and Orange, MA.
Source: Athol, Past and Present, Caswell, 1899
Lineage
- Samuel Lamb: Birth 10 March 1721 in Framingham, MA Death 25 March 1793. Married Sarah Atwood.
- Joshua Lamb: Birth abt 1748 Death 14 Nov 1830 in Phillipston, MA. Married Martha Kendall
- James Lamb: Birth 6 Jan 1809 in Phillipston, Worcester, MA. Death 28 Mar 1871 in Athol, Worcester, Massachusetts. Married Sarah Hubbard
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| Charles S Lamb |
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| Sarah E. Lamb |
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| Martha E.Lamb |
No photo found of Abby. As far as I can tell, there are no descendants of Charles and Abby. I descend from Martha.
A few months ago I got a "genealogist's high" when I made a profound discovery. It's a long story, but I found a Mann relative in Athol a couple of years ago who had a very strong resemblence (one photo in particular) to my grandmother. What baffled me is that they seemed too distantly related to share such similar features. This got me highly interested in DNA and solidified my passion for family research. Anyway, what I accidentally discovered was that although they shared the last name of Mann, they were more closely related by another family--the Lamb family of Athol! Ba-da-Bing! There you have it--2 bloodlines.*
Now I have a great interest in James & Elizabeth (Hubbard) Lamb and their descendents. James (1809-1871) and "Eliza" are buried in Highland Cemetery. I can find very little documentation on their son Charles S. Lamb who married Abbie Fay. He was born in 1834, but I have no death info. I would VERY much like to see photos of these people**, including their daughters Abby Maria Lamb who married John Howard Lee, and Martha Elvira Lamb who married Horace Mann. This is a photo of daughter Sarah Elizabeth Lamb and her husband Joseph B. Cardany. They lived in Athol and Orange, MA.
1870 Athol Properties
*I think this must be very common in earlier centuries when there wasn't as much choice in mates as we have today, and people didn't do a lot of moving. They settled in one area and stayed--generation after generation. I think there are a lot of branch crossovers in my Mann chart--currently at 15 pages of descendents.
** Email me at newfiescott@gmail.com
Sunday, May 6, 2012
Richard Man of Scituate, Massachusetts
I am a descendant of Richard Man(n) who arrived in Scituate in 1636 from England. Scituate was settled by a group of people from Plymouth about 1627 (see Plymouth Colony.) Several generations of the Mann family lived at the Mann Farmhouse at the corner of Stockbridge Road and Greenfield Lane, which is now a museum: http://scituatehistoricalsociety.org/mann-house
Family history has been preserved in a book by family genealogist George S. Mann (my 2nd great grand uncle): Mann memorial. A record of the Mann family in America. Genealogy of the descendants of Richard Mann, of Scituate, Mass. Preceded by English family records, and an account of the Wrentham, Rehoboth, Boston, Lexington, Virginia, and other branches of the Manns who settled in this country.
Richard and his wife Rebecca had 4 sons. Thomas, the second son, begat 8 children. The 8th child, Ensign Mann, Sr. (born around 1699), wed and died in Petersham, MA. Ensign Sr. begat another Ensign Mann in 1740. Ensign #2 went to Harvard, was the leader of the Sons of Liberty and begat Ensign Mann Jr. in 1778. Ensign Jr. begat William, William begat Horace, Horace begat James Lamb Mann, and this is where my line in Athol/Petersham ended. James' daughter Vera (my grandmother) married a preacher and lived all over the U.S.
Richard and his wife Rebecca had 4 sons. Thomas, the second son, begat 8 children. The 8th child, Ensign Mann, Sr. (born around 1699), wed and died in Petersham, MA. Ensign Sr. begat another Ensign Mann in 1740. Ensign #2 went to Harvard, was the leader of the Sons of Liberty and begat Ensign Mann Jr. in 1778. Ensign Jr. begat William, William begat Horace, Horace begat James Lamb Mann, and this is where my line in Athol/Petersham ended. James' daughter Vera (my grandmother) married a preacher and lived all over the U.S.
Labels:
ancestry,
genealogy,
mann,
mann memorial,
massachusetts,
richard man,
scituate
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